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Craig Falvo Settles This Whole Neil Godfrey/ Joel Conversation

For the record, Craig had expressed cynicism about Joel’s case until later today, he came across more facts that haven’t been brought up.

Enter: Reason into the debate:

This is likely to be my only comment regarding the matter. Paul makes the claim that Joel was out of line because of the CC license (I believe that it was a Creative Commons Attribution, NonCommercial, Share Alike 3.0 United States License. license).

Now, the closest shot I could get on the web archive of Vridar was from April 30, 2013 http://web.archive.org/web/20130430223337/http://vridar.wordpress.com/ (the ones from June 28 did not load anything). Two moths before this fiasco, there was no CC license found on Neil’s blog. See Update 2.

Now, if we look at the conditions for the Share Alike, we see this:
Share Alike — If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same or similar license to this one. (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/deed.en_US, emphasis mine)

Regardless of whether or not the post in question was licensed under a Creative Commons license, Godfrey still violated the conditions of the Creative Commons license by not having “the same or similar license to this one” on his own blog.

Game. Set. Match.

Yeah, if you wanna respond to Craig, find the comment here: RUN DMC(A).

Funny what happens when you commit yourself to the facts.

Score: Joel, 1, Neil Godfrey & Stephan Huller, Negative A Billion

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Mythicist Neil Godfrey was caught stealing intellectual property, and now he’s crying fowl. Joel Watts is in the right and Neil knows it. This is exactly why I have a Fair Use Policy for Political Jesus.

Also, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that Stephan Huller is making personal attacks against bonafide writers/scholars.

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Irony Anyone? Mythicists Depend on Christian Theological Interpretation

IF THERE WAS A MYTHICIST HISTORY CHANNEL, WOULDN’T THAT BE SORTA REDUNDANT?

Mythicists as a group of thinkers who challenge the notion of a historical Jesus figure are utterly dependent on Christian theology and interpretation in their views on the Old Testament. Kevin of Diglotting in his follow up post to his excellent review series of “Is This Not The Carpenter?”; see all three parts:

Is This Not the Carpenter Part 1

Is This Not The Carpenter Part 2

Is this Not The Carpenter Part 3

The follow-up post, Mythicism And A Suffering Messiah mentions that mythicists discuss a “messianic component to Isaiah.” Anyone who has taken an Introduction to Hebrew Bible course, or even talked to a Jewish person before would tell you that Isaiah 53, the Suffering Servant passage could be discussing a prophet who may have faced persecution, and even Israel itself. To make the theological leap from Suffering Servant to Yeshua the Messiah happens in the New Testament, mythicists are mimicking what some early Jewish Christians did, like with Phillip in his conversation with the Ethiopian eunuch (Acts 8) and with the writer of 1st Peter 2.

Also, one point on Ezekiel 8:14 as evidence of “rampant Inanna worship gone wild,” as Katherine Pfisterer Darr notes in her commentary, as well as other historians, the lamenting of the Tammuz was popular among primarily women. Fact is, Ezekiel’s prophecy, if taken seriously, happens in the SIXTH month and not the FOURTH, where in Mesopotamia, lament for the deity’s descent occurred. If sacred time means anything for the historical of religion, I can only assume a few things about the Israelite women who participated in the grievance ritual and Ezekiel. Either they did not know how to keep up with the time as well as other folk in the Ancient Near East, or they were very bad and unfaithful worshippers of Inanna. Or, more than likely, we shouldn’t quote ONE SINGLE PROOFTEXT, and using Ezekiel’s vision of all things, as historical evidence. I would go with the latter! Using this part of Ezekiel’s dream to prove the idea of a dying messiah in Israel and Judah is no more reasonable than me using Ezekiel 1 to talking about the history of aliens and UFO’s!

 

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